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i mean, whatever biden says and i know he's coming after ryan's budget, ryan will be able to respond. i'm saying the young ryan will make a hell of a contrast with biden. >> he is. the risk for the obama campaign is there's so much pressure to make up for last wednesday night that joe biden comes off too aggressive and overreaches and as a result of that, they dig further -- he they dig a further hole. >> i don't think there's a possibility that joe biden is too aggressive. he's an aggressive guy. >> he's a really aggressive guy. >> they're supposed to be aggressive. >> when you're too aggressive, you say things that come back to haunt you. >> no. the problem that biden gets into is when he talks to his own supporters. he gets too excited talking to his own supporters and fans. i doesn't get in that problem with debates. when i worked on the michael do you dukakis debate. the age difference won't make a difference. >> it's going to be an unbelievable contrast. >> it won't make a difference in ryan's favor but in biden's favor. >> i don't think so. >> it will show how little experience
i mean, whatever biden says and i know he's coming after ryan's budget, ryan will be able to respond. i'm saying the young ryan will make a hell of a contrast with biden. >> he is. the risk for the obama campaign is there's so much pressure to make up for last wednesday night that joe biden comes off too aggressive and overreaches and as a result of that, they dig further -- he they dig a further hole. >> i don't think there's a possibility that joe biden is too aggressive. he's an...
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ryan did not get flustered. did have some republican political strategists who i talked to during the debate thought ryan looked a little bit smug at times. ryan, of course, is young, he has to worry about looking like the junior varsity against the older guy. bottom line, i don't think anybody dominated the debate but i thought ryan did well and i think basically what we've done is set the table for the debate next week with obama and romney. that is going to determine what the next pivot in this race is. >> john, just to bring up a couple of points. we did have an informal poll on cnbc, about 3,000 people wrote in, based on what they have been writing, it went 60% in favor of ryan, 31% in favor of biden. 58-33, as those polls continue and we're watching intrade throughout where people are putting money down on this. barack obama at this point has 62.9%, mitt romney has 37.2%. i think it came down in the last half hour or so, earlier checked on barack obama he was up as high as 42%. 32-to 37.9. larry, you have
ryan did not get flustered. did have some republican political strategists who i talked to during the debate thought ryan looked a little bit smug at times. ryan, of course, is young, he has to worry about looking like the junior varsity against the older guy. bottom line, i don't think anybody dominated the debate but i thought ryan did well and i think basically what we've done is set the table for the debate next week with obama and romney. that is going to determine what the next pivot in...
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. >> thursday night, joe biden is going to have his hands full with paul ryan. not only because ryan is smart but he is young looking and the youthful vote is going to flock to him. i think that is joe biden's biggest problem. >> i think he has been a liebility on the ticket and has had problems telling the truth. >> it has not been documented. >> i would like to ask you all a question, if you were president obama or his campaign and you heard governor romney say in a big foreign policy address that the -- >> you have gotten it wrong. >> i'm not going to accept the premise. >> he said negotiated. >> no, he didn't. >> look at the transcript. >> that is the truth. he has done as little as possible on trade. >> we will see on thursday night how the ryan debate goes with joe biden. right now i have to tell you ed, your man is in a heap of trouble. i appreciate it. >> jennifer rubin and steve, thank you very wuch. and to our big tweet. you have to love our cnbc intern. hi, don'those adds. coming up. an investigation exposes how the president's campaign may have viola
. >> thursday night, joe biden is going to have his hands full with paul ryan. not only because ryan is smart but he is young looking and the youthful vote is going to flock to him. i think that is joe biden's biggest problem. >> i think he has been a liebility on the ticket and has had problems telling the truth. >> it has not been documented. >> i would like to ask you all a question, if you were president obama or his campaign and you heard governor romney say in a...
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ryan is real start. if you start attacking him on taxes and medicare ryan will quietly and calmly rebut you. if ryan tries to pull the foreign policy string, he's going to have a hard time with the benghazi problem. everyone is talking about cover-ups and falsehoods and biden has not said a word to the press. he's going to get tied up in knots over benghazi. >> a story fresh in everyone's mind. governor john engler, currently head of the business round table. great to have you tonight. welcome? >> thank you, carl. >> the debate comes on a day where you've got lloyd blankfein, simpson and bowles, on national television, on cnbc, talking debt and deficit. that's got to be one of the key issues tonight? >> it should be. it's very important issue for the nation and you've got the president of the senate and vice president there and chairman of the house budget committee, we've got two people who have their positions well staked out, it ought to be a good conversation. >> governor engler, that could get diffi
ryan is real start. if you start attacking him on taxes and medicare ryan will quietly and calmly rebut you. if ryan tries to pull the foreign policy string, he's going to have a hard time with the benghazi problem. everyone is talking about cover-ups and falsehoods and biden has not said a word to the press. he's going to get tied up in knots over benghazi. >> a story fresh in everyone's mind. governor john engler, currently head of the business round table. great to have you tonight....
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here's what paul ryan actually said debating on libya. here it comes. >> our ambassador has a marine detachment guarding him. shouldn't we have a marine detachment guarding our ambassador in benghazi, a place that we knew there was an al qaeda cell with arms? this is becoming more troublesing by the day and now they're trying to blame the romney-ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> that last thing, blaming the romney-ryan ticket. i'll give the case to the defense to you, but i've got to say joe biden said the intelligence didn't tell them anything. the state department knew in real time that this had nothing to do with spontaneous protests about the video. that's point number one. point number two, biden said last night that he did not know or that there was no request from the state department for extra security in the benghazi consulate. the reality is, we have all learned, they made not one, not two, but five requests for additional security which were all turned down at the white house and the national security council. biden -- i
here's what paul ryan actually said debating on libya. here it comes. >> our ambassador has a marine detachment guarding him. shouldn't we have a marine detachment guarding our ambassador in benghazi, a place that we knew there was an al qaeda cell with arms? this is becoming more troublesing by the day and now they're trying to blame the romney-ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> that last thing, blaming the romney-ryan ticket. i'll give the case to the defense to you, but...
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here's paul ryan. he doesn't have to talk about what he would do as vice president, what his goals would be in terms of bipartisanship. he actually has a record in the congress of putting together a budget that got an overwhelming majority of conservative and moderate and liberal republicans behind that budget, and he was able to put together a medicare reform proposal, not just with republicans, but with the liberal democrat from oregon named ron widen and a bipartisan medicare proposal, in sharp contrast from the president who has had failed leadership of putting together a budget deficit reduction plan. >> i just -- i do think, you know, putting together a budget that has the support of a bunch of republicans is not exactly -- no sdemts not a calling card for bipartisanship. >> i'll just tell you this though. i think it's very interesting who mitt romney who did a bunch of this in massachusetts has made that one of his calling cards and conservatives in the party are not revolting. i think they like
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paul ryan is known as a very numbers kind of guy. his challenge will be able to take those numbers and put it into a narrative. joe biden will need to take the narrative and put it into concrete facts. so the challenge is out for both of them. i do think that you will probably see as the zingers fly back and forth and my study versus your study and kind of the facts going between, but what penetrates is the presentation and what they're doing and that articulation of the overall narrative. >> and say remarks do you think paul ryan can pull it off? >> yeah, i do think he can. he's an incredibly smart guy. r paul ryan can pull it off? >> yeah, i do think he can. he's an incredibly smart guy.r paul ryan can pull it off? >> yeah, i do think he can. he's an incredibly smart guy.ag think paul ryan can pull it off? >> yeah, i do think he can. he's an incredibly smart guy.re think paul ryan can pull it off? >> yeah, i do think he can. he's an incredibly smart guy.emk paul ryan can pull it off? >> yeah, i do think he can. he's an incredibly s
paul ryan is known as a very numbers kind of guy. his challenge will be able to take those numbers and put it into a narrative. joe biden will need to take the narrative and put it into concrete facts. so the challenge is out for both of them. i do think that you will probably see as the zingers fly back and forth and my study versus your study and kind of the facts going between, but what penetrates is the presentation and what they're doing and that articulation of the overall narrative....
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whole thing, ryan was prepared. he was on his game on foreign policy. watch what happens when paul ryan surprised everybody with his knowledge of foreign affairs. please take a listen. >> our ambassador in paris has a marine detachment guarding him. shouldn't we have a marine detachment guarding our ambassador in benghazi, a place where we knew that there was an al qaeda cell with arms? this is becoming more troubling by the day. they first blamed the youtube video, now trying to blame the romney/ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> and i think that the vice president, who has not faced the press since the benghazi incident, neither has the president faced the press, you know, we had a million tweets last night. we had so many tweets and believe me, i didn't have to cherry-pick the tweets. i've been very critical of this benghazi. people are furious in this country. so right there at the top of the debate on a subject that we didn't expect to happen, i believe ryan took the lead and he never relinquished it. >>
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initially last night paul ryan was. >> paul ryan supporters got going very quickly and then the biden votes have taken over. >> i believe the margin is 52%. >> and then there's a bunch of people somewhere in the middle, i guess. but that's in the an insubstantial number of votes. >> so we'll see if we can hit 140,000 by the end of the show. not just us clicking over here. you can tell us what you thought on twitter, too. michael tweeting in to say what joe biden lacks in substance he makes up for by interrupting and talking over his opponent. voicing the view of many apparently from last night. katie says biden simply yells too much. do you agree? join the conversation. you can e-mail worldwide at cnbc.com, @cnbcwex, or reach us directly. jpmorgan will report at 7:00 a.m. eastern. the company is expected to earn $1.22 a share on $24.5 billion revenue. the bank is expected to benefit from higher revenues for mortgage lending and fixed income capital markets. investors will also be listening for further comments about how jpmorgan is dealing with the trading loss. wells fargo will also
initially last night paul ryan was. >> paul ryan supporters got going very quickly and then the biden votes have taken over. >> i believe the margin is 52%. >> and then there's a bunch of people somewhere in the middle, i guess. but that's in the an insubstantial number of votes. >> so we'll see if we can hit 140,000 by the end of the show. not just us clicking over here. you can tell us what you thought on twitter, too. michael tweeting in to say what joe biden lacks in...
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>> i assume you mean ryan. >> i did mean ryan, i'm sorry. i take it all back. >> if ryan wants to show those abs, i'm sure the audience would love it. look, there are a couple of things. joe biden will be able to hold ryan's feet to the fire in a way that i don't think anyone else has. and we've heard some of that conversation earlier this evening on your program talking specifically about the budget, specifically about medicare and medicaid. when paul ryan has said previously, i don't have enough time to walk you through the number, i'm sure he'll be given plenty of time. and remember that biden had what i thought was one of the best moments of the debate season last cycle when he reminded sarah palin and our audience that he was a single father. he himself -- he raised his kids after he lost his wife and his daughter. so he's a good debater. >> look, i think joe biden is a really good man, by the way, personally. a really good man with a great story. but i know him personally and i think he's a really good man. but, kate, if biden tangles
>> i assume you mean ryan. >> i did mean ryan, i'm sorry. i take it all back. >> if ryan wants to show those abs, i'm sure the audience would love it. look, there are a couple of things. joe biden will be able to hold ryan's feet to the fire in a way that i don't think anyone else has. and we've heard some of that conversation earlier this evening on your program talking specifically about the budget, specifically about medicare and medicaid. when paul ryan has said...
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ryan. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm from janesville, wisconsin. you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? >> sure do. >> it's 10%. >> the day it was when you came in, 8.5%. >> you don't read the statistics that's not how it's going. it's going down. >> this is two-minute answer, please. >> look, did they come in and inherit a tough situation? absolutely. we're going in the wrong direction. look at where we are. the economy is barely limping along, growing at 1.3%. that's slower than it grew last year and last year slower than the year before. job growth in september was slower than it was in august and august slower than it was in july. we're heading in the wrong direction. 23 million americans are struggling for work today. 15% of americans are living in poverty today. this is not what a real recovery looks like. we need real reforms for real recovery and that's what mitt romney and i are proposing. a five-point plan, get america energy independent in north america
ryan. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm from janesville, wisconsin. you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? >> sure do. >> it's 10%. >> the day it was when you came in, 8.5%. >> you don't read the statistics that's not how it's going. it's going down. >> this is two-minute answer, please. >> look, did they come in and inherit a tough situation? absolutely. we're going in the wrong direction....
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look for paul ryan to go after president obama. expect joe booiden to say to pa ryan that your running mate is trying to obscure his positions. it will be an interesting night. >> all right. thank you, john. we'll be watching for sure. catch the debate here on cnbc beginning at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. the best analysis before and after the debate, especially in this election when economic issues are so important. plus, you can vote on cnbc.com on who you thought won the debate. plus, we have our patented feed showing you who is saying what throughout the night. so this is the place to be. >> i don't think we'll have to worry about energy from either one of these candidates tonight. >> oh, no. this is going to be good for sure. >>> meantime, an incredible exclusive look inside the financial industry today from our own steve liesman in his interview with goldman sachs chairman and ceo and the co-chairs of the national commission on fiscal responsibility. they have become brand names in an of themselves. alan simpson and erskine bowle
look for paul ryan to go after president obama. expect joe booiden to say to pa ryan that your running mate is trying to obscure his positions. it will be an interesting night. >> all right. thank you, john. we'll be watching for sure. catch the debate here on cnbc beginning at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. the best analysis before and after the debate, especially in this election when economic issues are so important. plus, you can vote on cnbc.com on who you thought won the debate. plus, we...
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i don't think the vice president was at all disrespectful to congressman ryan. it was a serious debate. >> he interrupted him a number of times. >> you're interrupting me, but i don't think you're disrespecting me. >> if i were martha i would have been upset with joe biden. three times he turns to her and says, wait, wait, wait, he got 40 seconds, you're going to give me 20? >> i thought she did a fine job. >> she did, but he was constantly criticizing her. >> i think martha did a great job. >> but joe biden told her repeatedly he didn't think so. >> i disagree. he was setting the rules of the game. he was taking the issues to the american people on medicare, on social security, on taxes. he was saying, who do you trust more, this guy who wants to voucherize medicare, this guy who wants to privatize social security, this guy who wants tax cuts for the wealthy, and he wants to raise taxes for the middle class. which team do you trust more? i think that was exactly the right conversation to be having with the american people. >> all right. got to go. >> none of it
i don't think the vice president was at all disrespectful to congressman ryan. it was a serious debate. >> he interrupted him a number of times. >> you're interrupting me, but i don't think you're disrespecting me. >> if i were martha i would have been upset with joe biden. three times he turns to her and says, wait, wait, wait, he got 40 seconds, you're going to give me 20? >> i thought she did a fine job. >> she did, but he was constantly criticizing her....
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and would it end, therefore, if romney and ryan win the white house? very good questions. let's bring in a guy that can hope pli provide sofully provid josh brown. you made a big call on credit card companies a few months ago on "street signs." you still own visa and you still think it is a good buy. why? >> yeah. visa and mastercard both have something that is really hard to come by these days, which is a secular growth story that really doesn't get interrupted regardless of what happens with the economy. look around. people are paying for things with credit cards and debit card more and more and that's not going to go the other way regardless of consumer spending ebbing and flowing with the cyclical economies. >> regardless of who is in the white house? back to our original story? >> correct. look, biden is from delaware. that's a very popular state for credit card business. biden's son works at mbna. biden fought the bankruptcy rules where people were going to get off the hook. he took the/carr compani credit companies' side. nobody should be surprised. but i don't thin
and would it end, therefore, if romney and ryan win the white house? very good questions. let's bring in a guy that can hope pli provide sofully provid josh brown. you made a big call on credit card companies a few months ago on "street signs." you still own visa and you still think it is a good buy. why? >> yeah. visa and mastercard both have something that is really hard to come by these days, which is a secular growth story that really doesn't get interrupted regardless of...
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one, his selection of paul ryan was a great boom to us. we really felt like all right he's really serious. he wants to put policy first, he wants to put political courage ahead of political convenience. he wants substance ahead of ceremony and then the other thing is, as we begin to focus on the extent to the facts that this government is broken, we have a dysfunctional congress, we need a president that can fulfill the harry truman commitment that the only power i have is the power to make a bunch of damned fools do what they ought to be doing anyway. we've got to have a president that forces congress to get serious and go to work and fixes the broken executive branch that's just run amuck with executive orders and all kinds of bureaucratic mandates and so forth, and so the managerial capabilities to reorganize this government and make it, in fact, once again a functional servant of the best interests of the american people rather than political agent of me and my party is something we now see in romney as of paramount importance and fran
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but ryan has an entirely different political persona. he's very much a policy geek, he's very much on top of substance. and so i think that's not going to be easy for biden to do. one analog that might be useful is dick cheney and john edwards in 2004 when john kerry had built momentum against george w. bush and dick cheney sat down with john edwards and kind of portrayed him as a light weight who hasn't been around, who missed a lot of votes. cheney projected some sgchlt ravitas and did george bush a virs. and president obama is hoping joe biden can do that for him tonight. >> i was wondering if you're going to ask that question, are you ready if something god forbid were to happen, a heartbeat away, do you make that point with paul ryan when the republican caricature of biden keeps pointing that out? this guy is heartbeat away from the president? it depends which side of the aisle you're on as to who wins the argument. biden has been around a long time, but you don't need to be -- you can be a relative newcomer and be more prepared to
but ryan has an entirely different political persona. he's very much a policy geek, he's very much on top of substance. and so i think that's not going to be easy for biden to do. one analog that might be useful is dick cheney and john edwards in 2004 when john kerry had built momentum against george w. bush and dick cheney sat down with john edwards and kind of portrayed him as a light weight who hasn't been around, who missed a lot of votes. cheney projected some sgchlt ravitas and did george...
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paul ryan is a guy who comes from the heartland of america. he represents the values of middle income families all across this nation. he knows this budget better than anybody in congress. and he knows pro-growth economics. he knows how to get america back to work. and he knows how to quit spending money we don't have. listen, the people who know paul ryan, you're not going to find a guy who has a purer heart, a smarter intellect and a smaller ego. america is very much going to appreciate the paul ryan that they see tonight. >> we will -- you said he has no intellectual peer in congress. we'll see how that plays itself out tonight. congressman, good to see you. have fun. jeff hensarling joins us from danville, kentucky. >>> capital markets op-ed. gary kaminsky. man, has there been a lot of news about jpmorgan in the past 24 hours. >> there has been. i'm standing here with judge. he's prepping for his show. he takes the best notes. >> it's called organization. >> judge, stay with it. the news today about bronstein, the cfo. sell side analysting
paul ryan is a guy who comes from the heartland of america. he represents the values of middle income families all across this nation. he knows this budget better than anybody in congress. and he knows pro-growth economics. he knows how to get america back to work. and he knows how to quit spending money we don't have. listen, the people who know paul ryan, you're not going to find a guy who has a purer heart, a smarter intellect and a smaller ego. america is very much going to appreciate the...
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paul ryan, much younger, much less experienced at this game. i thought he acquitted himself very well. >> i would agree. on policy issues they both got in good jabs but in terms of smirk versus grim, i go with smirk. >> i'm not worried about the smirk. >> have you ever called in sick for an unusual reason? >> i've got some unusual ones that i found out but apparently a lot of people do call in sick for different reasons. >> a new survey finds 30% of people fake a sick day when they don't feel like coming in to work. often using some very creative excuses. here are a couple of them. i called in sick because my sobriety tool would not allow my car to start. my toe was stuck in a faucet. a bird hit me. >> this is my favorite. >> and my dead grandmother was being exhumed for a police investigation. >> has anybody else had that problem? i've not had that problem. >> but the problem i have is that usually when people want to call in sick they don't even have to give an excuse, they just send an e-mail and say, "i'm sick." i think we should pay people
paul ryan, much younger, much less experienced at this game. i thought he acquitted himself very well. >> i would agree. on policy issues they both got in good jabs but in terms of smirk versus grim, i go with smirk. >> i'm not worried about the smirk. >> have you ever called in sick for an unusual reason? >> i've got some unusual ones that i found out but apparently a lot of people do call in sick for different reasons. >> a new survey finds 30% of people fake a...
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and in one corner fighting in the red trunks, it's paul ryan. in the other, wearing the blue, it's joe biden. and when the bell rings, these gentlemen will come out debating. we are just two days away from the next major event of the u.s. election season. the vice presidential debate in kentucky. you can catch all the action right here on cnbc. our own coverage will begin thursday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. ross, i cannot wait. i am so bummed, it's going to be hard to watch it over here because it will be so late, or early our time. >> do vp debates actually matter? >> they can, and i think in this case, when -- >> i'm not saying it won't be a good watch. i'm just wondering whether a it has any impact. >> i think traditionally do they have a lot of impact. maybe, does this one have the potential to be impactful? absolutely. >> it will be covered. a crucial deadline today. more as soon as we come back. >>> you're watching "worldwide exchange." these are your headlines. alcoa warning of slow demand from china. >> deadline day for the eads and bae. >> c
and in one corner fighting in the red trunks, it's paul ryan. in the other, wearing the blue, it's joe biden. and when the bell rings, these gentlemen will come out debating. we are just two days away from the next major event of the u.s. election season. the vice presidential debate in kentucky. you can catch all the action right here on cnbc. our own coverage will begin thursday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. ross, i cannot wait. i am so bummed, it's going to be hard to watch it over here because it...
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both he and ryan have been, i think, five or six terms each. >> ryan in the house. >> right. >> he's in the house. but they've both had the same experience in terms of election. but 40 years of debating putting biden in somewhat of the driver's seat because of that. just because of his experience. >> we haven't seen him in five months on a tv network. on a national network. has not been an interview in five months. the last time he was on, he came out in favor of gay marriage and then the president had to -- >> he's saving himself. >> and there hasn't been a press briefing. a white house press briefing in 15 days because those can be on video. the gaggles you can't videotape and it's only people that are traveling with the president. credential guys can get into the other one, and there hasn't been one in 15 days. >> amazing. >> you wouldn't want to talk about anything in the last 15 days. >> exactly. talking about big bird and all that kind of stuff. but nothing about jobs and the economy really has come out of the white house. >> do you expect -- the debate last time around caught
both he and ryan have been, i think, five or six terms each. >> ryan in the house. >> right. >> he's in the house. but they've both had the same experience in terms of election. but 40 years of debating putting biden in somewhat of the driver's seat because of that. just because of his experience. >> we haven't seen him in five months on a tv network. on a national network. has not been an interview in five months. the last time he was on, he came out in favor of gay...
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take one very good example where he skewer ryan on the question of the stimulus where ryan as a congressional representative from gainesville had twice asked for money from the constituencies. that kind of story has gotten buried in all of the talk about the theatrics. so the democrats are cheering biden, but he made a mistake by giving his opponent a chance to focus on the theatrics. >> is there so much media attention on his smiling and smurking aside in part because prot did so poorly in that first debate. >> yes. and of the particular way that president did badly. if you follow the theory, this is a visual contest, that what biden did to ryan, maybe he didn't make sense, maybe he told some lies but what he did do is go on the stage and prove he was the king gorilla, dumped on the other guy and threw him around. in the previous debate, romney had been the king gorilla and since we're more concerned about kimg and vice king, the fact that he failed to hold his own i think is a very concerning thing to democrats because it doesn't just go to the president's, you know, was he asleep, was he t
take one very good example where he skewer ryan on the question of the stimulus where ryan as a congressional representative from gainesville had twice asked for money from the constituencies. that kind of story has gotten buried in all of the talk about the theatrics. so the democrats are cheering biden, but he made a mistake by giving his opponent a chance to focus on the theatrics. >> is there so much media attention on his smiling and smurking aside in part because prot did so poorly...
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shirtless joe, meet backward cap paul ryan. this is the vice president of the united states. >> oh, yeah. >> that is a good look for him. he is a regular joe blow. >> you have to love that wink. >> but i am sure he is not thrilled about it. his muscles do look good. >> he has guns. >> and the chicken legs comment. he can't be happy about that. >> here is the photo about it, but everything is cool except for the facial expression. if he had grrr'd or something, then it would have been fine, but it is like one of the '80s promos for a sit-com. >> well, if you have the guns. >> thank you for starting your morning with us. >> we have much more on
shirtless joe, meet backward cap paul ryan. this is the vice president of the united states. >> oh, yeah. >> that is a good look for him. he is a regular joe blow. >> you have to love that wink. >> but i am sure he is not thrilled about it. his muscles do look good. >> he has guns. >> and the chicken legs comment. he can't be happy about that. >> here is the photo about it, but everything is cool except for the facial expression. if he had grrr'd or...
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the laughs, 82 times that joe biden interrupted paul ryan. >> paul ryan was interrupting too. >> i don't know who his debate partner was, maybe it was ed schultz from msnbc, not sure. >> at one point, the moderator asked congressman ryan to offer specifics, where are loopholes going to be cut back to pay for the romney/ryan tax cut plan. >> the congressman has provided boat loads of specifics, look at tax policies, the ryan plan, the five-point plan, 59-point plan, the fact of the matter, we have specifics coming out of our ears, and joe biden and barack obama and the democrats have not passed the budget. they haven't passed a budget in over three years. no ground to stand on in this country in this debate. no ground for president of the united states of america to be lecturing anybody about budgeting. they failed in their duty to this country. >> one thing you said before this debate. joe biden has been debating since the 1800s, so he has boat loads of experience. dewin tonight? >> no, he didn't use the experience he has to be respectful, clear, and state your point, wait for your oppon
the laughs, 82 times that joe biden interrupted paul ryan. >> paul ryan was interrupting too. >> i don't know who his debate partner was, maybe it was ed schultz from msnbc, not sure. >> at one point, the moderator asked congressman ryan to offer specifics, where are loopholes going to be cut back to pay for the romney/ryan tax cut plan. >> the congressman has provided boat loads of specifics, look at tax policies, the ryan plan, the five-point plan, 59-point plan, the...
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ryan, budget and taxes, number two issue, ryan, the economy. mirror image of biden. vice president spent third most time talking about the problems in the arab world for the congressman from wisconsin. number three, entitlements, such as medicare, social security. that's our team of timers actually scored it. unlike the last debate, what was also striking, how similar two candidates were to the time they devoted to key issues, not because they agreed, instead because for every punch, an equally sharp counterpunch. some examples, each different almost completely. but at times, around 5:00 each were nearly identical. same on foreign policy side on iran, again, disagreement, and again about equal time. 4:30 each. likewise on ending the war in afghanistan. the vice president and congressman ryan spoke for nearly the same length of time about 5:00. however, what they said could not be more different. like night and day. correspondents standing by with each side. stay with us. one is for a clean, wedomestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is
ryan, budget and taxes, number two issue, ryan, the economy. mirror image of biden. vice president spent third most time talking about the problems in the arab world for the congressman from wisconsin. number three, entitlements, such as medicare, social security. that's our team of timers actually scored it. unlike the last debate, what was also striking, how similar two candidates were to the time they devoted to key issues, not because they agreed, instead because for every punch, an equally...
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biden versus ryan who is going to win? i think biden wins. >> i think we will be talking about how did obama was. >> i have a feeling that romney could nick it again. good to see you. is the new president obama leaner and meaner? we'll debate tonight's battleground america next. >>> president obama is accusing mitt romney of flip-flopping on the issues. before we go anywhere i want to play this attack on his comment on abortion. >> this is another example of governor romney hiding issues he has been campaigning on for year. >> he has made very clear if the bill come to his desk that overturn s roe versus wade that he will overturn that. >> now four weeks before an election he is trying to cloud the question. >> let me start with you. mitt romney has performed more flip-flops on abortion and i don't think this is a flip-flop. >> you can be pro life but also say we have to turn the economy around first. it has thengs like we are going to fix trade and education. but abortion is not on that list. >> yes, but the reason that h
biden versus ryan who is going to win? i think biden wins. >> i think we will be talking about how did obama was. >> i have a feeling that romney could nick it again. good to see you. is the new president obama leaner and meaner? we'll debate tonight's battleground america next. >>> president obama is accusing mitt romney of flip-flopping on the issues. before we go anywhere i want to play this attack on his comment on abortion. >> this is another example of governor...
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ryan did not make two requests. he made at least four. that's a fact check i'm sure joe is really upset about. the rest of it he probably wants to hear nothing about. john, you have been looking into this. paul ryan has been criticizing green pork for awhile but he also asked for money to create green jobs. some people might say this is practical. others might say hypocritical. >> that's where the line is. when the green pork was being given out, paul ryan went right up to the trough and asked for his. this is part of the problem of being a congressman. the part of being a member of congress is requesting money for your constituents. an ideological fiscal conservative like paul ryan is in a double bind. on the one hand he has to provide for his constituents. when he hits the campaign trail and rails against government spending, his accusations of hypocrisy not only for requests for green pork but also because here's a guy who spent his entire adult life working in government running against government spending. >> how much does this hurt
ryan did not make two requests. he made at least four. that's a fact check i'm sure joe is really upset about. the rest of it he probably wants to hear nothing about. john, you have been looking into this. paul ryan has been criticizing green pork for awhile but he also asked for money to create green jobs. some people might say this is practical. others might say hypocritical. >> that's where the line is. when the green pork was being given out, paul ryan went right up to the trough and...
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which can't help ryan, can it? >> i don't think how much joe biden smiled or how hydrated paul ryan is is going to decide the election but i agree with on biden the way that romney did against obama. he didn't put him on the defense. he did -- >> but the problem he had, i'll put this to mike, as we can see here from a montage of joe biden, biden kept laughing at him in this sort of outrageously dismissive way. when i first began to see this i tweeted please stop doing this, this is not presidential at all or vice presidential. as it went on, i found it increasingly infectious and began laughing with him. which can't help ryan, can it? >> i don't think how much joe biden smiled or how hydrated paul ryan is is going to decide the election but i agree with you. that sentiment, that split screen moment when the vice president was actually expressing some frustration with some of the answers that weren't being addressed was shared by a lot of democratic activists last night. he was using that real estate to his advantag
which can't help ryan, can it? >> i don't think how much joe biden smiled or how hydrated paul ryan is is going to decide the election but i agree with on biden the way that romney did against obama. he didn't put him on the defense. he did -- >> but the problem he had, i'll put this to mike, as we can see here from a montage of joe biden, biden kept laughing at him in this sort of outrageously dismissive way. when i first began to see this i tweeted please stop doing this, this is...
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which can't help ryan, can it? >> i don't think how much joe biden smiled or how hydrated paul ryan is is going to decide the election but i agree with you. that sentiment, that split screen moment when the vice president was actually expressing some frustration with some of the answers that weren't being addressed was shared by a lot of democratic activists last night. he was using that real estate to his advantage. >> that's a misread of the situation. i think people were put off by that but i think that that was the expectation going in. people expected joe biden to act like that. the burden was on ryan to come and basically say we're adding something to the equation and he didn't do that with conviction, except for one time, one time he had conviction. it was on the issue of abortion and that is the wrong issue to have conviction with the undecided voters. >> let's get to the more important debate which comes on tuesday next week, because if mitt romney was to win that big time, you could say that could be the
which can't help ryan, can it? >> i don't think how much joe biden smiled or how hydrated paul ryan is is going to decide the election but i agree with you. that sentiment, that split screen moment when the vice president was actually expressing some frustration with some of the answers that weren't being addressed was shared by a lot of democratic activists last night. he was using that real estate to his advantage. >> that's a misread of the situation. i think people were put off...
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paul ryan takes his health seriously. clearly, judging by these silly pictures he doesn't take himself too seriously. neither did readers on buzz feed. they put him in with the village people with the cast of "jersey shore," they made him flex and even wink like a certain previous v.p. candidate. some wondered when are the joe biden workout photos coming? the best we could do is drag out that famous photo shop job done by the shirtless joe biden washing his transam, shirtless joe, meet backwards cap ryan. >> jeannie moos, cnn -- >> it's regular old joe blow -- >> reporter: -- new york. >> you canwa
paul ryan takes his health seriously. clearly, judging by these silly pictures he doesn't take himself too seriously. neither did readers on buzz feed. they put him in with the village people with the cast of "jersey shore," they made him flex and even wink like a certain previous v.p. candidate. some wondered when are the joe biden workout photos coming? the best we could do is drag out that famous photo shop job done by the shirtless joe biden washing his transam, shirtless joe,...
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the much anticipated vice presidential debate between joe biden and paul ryan this thursday. cnn has full coverage starting 7:00 eastern time. >>> the u.s. supreme court will hear a big case this week. affirmative action is on the docket and the decision could impact public schools and colleges across the country. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your
the much anticipated vice presidential debate between joe biden and paul ryan this thursday. cnn has full coverage starting 7:00 eastern time. >>> the u.s. supreme court will hear a big case this week. affirmative action is on the docket and the decision could impact public schools and colleges across the country. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the...
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if joe biden eats paul ryan for dinner is that going to change things dramatically? or is everybody really waiting for the next one? >> i don't think that paul ryan is on the menu -- >> oh, he is on the menu, don't worry about that. >> oh, i expect that vp joe biden will be very aggressive, an interesting test driver for the sorts of arguments and strategy that you might see come out of obama in the next week and next debate. if joe biden does well, i think you will see barack obama do well, and if it goes badly, i think people will say oh, that is just joe biden, he makes gaffes, i think it is very important for both candidates for many reasons, for ryan, it is really important because he still has to introduce himself to the american people. he is really going to get asked a lot of questions about his ideas. he has always been a bold guy putting ideas, out there. they will have to defend their positions. >> i think joe biden is a very experienced campaigner. he likes to get his gloves on and go for it. and paul ryan could be in trouble, cornered by a raging bull. >
if joe biden eats paul ryan for dinner is that going to change things dramatically? or is everybody really waiting for the next one? >> i don't think that paul ryan is on the menu -- >> oh, he is on the menu, don't worry about that. >> oh, i expect that vp joe biden will be very aggressive, an interesting test driver for the sorts of arguments and strategy that you might see come out of obama in the next week and next debate. if joe biden does well, i think you will see barack...
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paul ryan will be speaking there in just a few minutes from now. ohio is one of the key swing states for both romney and obama. both have spent a whole lot of time there talking to voters. so how are the voters receiving all that attention? cnn political editor paul steinhauser joining us now to talk about that. good morning to you what. is the story in ohio? >> reporter: ohio -- it sounds like a broken record. but these candidates keep going back to ohio. the second straight day for mitt romney. the president was just there earlier this week. here's my unofficial count here. since the start of the general election, which was usually considered early april, the president has now made 12 swings through ohio. this is the 16th swing for mitt romney. over $91 million spent by the campaigns. the party committees, the super pacs in ohio. 18 electoral votes at stake in such an important state. this is the state that put president george w. bush over the top in 2004. mitt romney really needs to win it to win the white house this time around. bruce springst
paul ryan will be speaking there in just a few minutes from now. ohio is one of the key swing states for both romney and obama. both have spent a whole lot of time there talking to voters. so how are the voters receiving all that attention? cnn political editor paul steinhauser joining us now to talk about that. good morning to you what. is the story in ohio? >> reporter: ohio -- it sounds like a broken record. but these candidates keep going back to ohio. the second straight day for mitt...
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experts say for ryan it's his ability to talk in detail. and for biden, his ability to talk to people. >> he's fast on the cuff, he's a witty guy, he knows who he is, and he's been doing nr 40 years. so you're not goimgts to rattle joe biden. joe is very good on the attack. joe is very good at trying to confuse the issues. >> reporter: when it comes to advice for the candidates -- >> try to be comfortable, rests, smile from time too time. >> reporter: and a little humor can help. >> i can see my wife and i'm sure she's thinking gee, i wish he would go out into the private sector. >> i can help you do that, joe. >> the candidates stayed clear of talking guns at last week's debate and an aurora shooting survivor is speaking out. he said concepting out showed a real lack of respect. plus fox news host bill o'reilly and jon stewart battle it out in a debate of their own. ♪ ♪ hi dad. many years from now, when the subaru is theirs... hey. you missed a spot. ...i'll look back on this day and laugh. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. ♪
experts say for ryan it's his ability to talk in detail. and for biden, his ability to talk to people. >> he's fast on the cuff, he's a witty guy, he knows who he is, and he's been doing nr 40 years. so you're not goimgts to rattle joe biden. joe is very good on the attack. joe is very good at trying to confuse the issues. >> reporter: when it comes to advice for the candidates -- >> try to be comfortable, rests, smile from time too time. >> reporter: and a little humor...
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it's a tricky line. >> so, how much does this hurt paul ryan? you might not want the stimulus, but when it happens, you've got to go fight for your piece of it. does that sell or not? >> in general, i believe hypocrisy is the unforgivable sin, but this is understandable. people do get part of your job isn't just to be a policy wonk, but to fight for the rights of your constituents. >> last night, there was also the exchange about the letters and then joe biden said well, you can write me a letter when ever you want. but you have some of the letters. >> yes. we have four of the letters right here and look, they asked for -- >> are they written like you would write a letter to a friend? >> oh, no. >> not to a friend? >> this is not my friend, joe biden, give me some green pork. that's over lunch. now, this is simply a bureaucratic navigation, but writing a secretary of energy asking for these green jobs and stimulus money. the very stuff he hits on the campaign trial a lot. he's hitting it on the campaign trial. attacking the stimulus. attacking g
it's a tricky line. >> so, how much does this hurt paul ryan? you might not want the stimulus, but when it happens, you've got to go fight for your piece of it. does that sell or not? >> in general, i believe hypocrisy is the unforgivable sin, but this is understandable. people do get part of your job isn't just to be a policy wonk, but to fight for the rights of your constituents. >> last night, there was also the exchange about the letters and then joe biden said well, you...
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. >>> joe biden versus paul ryan is next. the first and only vice presidential debate just days away. we preview the match-up and look at standout moments from previous vice presidential debates. >> who can forget that wink? sarah palin winking with the nominee, joe biden. not just once, but some half a dozen times. and there is lloyd benson's dig in 1988. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> memorable moments, but hardly game changers. while presidential debates can affect the outcome of an election, vice presidential debates like this upcoming match-up between biden and his gop challenger, paul ryan, are a different animal. >> can you see they have hit the standard of readiness, they will be ready to be able to step into the oval office and take the reigns of the presidency. but beyond that in terms of the actual debate itself, unless there's a star-killing or star-catching moment, it rarely changes the course of the debate. >> brazil says the first rule here is to
. >>> joe biden versus paul ryan is next. the first and only vice presidential debate just days away. we preview the match-up and look at standout moments from previous vice presidential debates. >> who can forget that wink? sarah palin winking with the nominee, joe biden. not just once, but some half a dozen times. and there is lloyd benson's dig in 1988. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> memorable...
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paul ryan today will have a separate event in ohio. and tonight, romney goes home and goes under lock to get ready for the second presidential debate and the same for president obama, randi. because he is going to williamsburg, virginia, but he is not going there to campaign in the crucial state, but he is doing basically debate prep between now and tuesday. here is the thing about tuesday's debate, because it is different from the presidential debate, and that was a week and a half ago in denver. this is a town hall for mamat a different feel from the questions of the audience, and the monitor is our own candy crowley and a lot at stake coming up on tuesday night at hofstra university in new york. randi? >> yes, a whole different energy as well, which the candidates will feed off of with the town hall feel, but we are going to be talking a little bit about florida later on in the show this morning, paul. certainly one of the big swing states. do you have any new numbers on the race by the way? >> i do. this is the cnn poll of polls. w
paul ryan today will have a separate event in ohio. and tonight, romney goes home and goes under lock to get ready for the second presidential debate and the same for president obama, randi. because he is going to williamsburg, virginia, but he is not going there to campaign in the crucial state, but he is doing basically debate prep between now and tuesday. here is the thing about tuesday's debate, because it is different from the presidential debate, and that was a week and a half ago in...
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has way more experience in all of these areas than ryan did, but ryan obviously has studied a lot. certainly over the last few weeks getting ready for this debate. he didn't fumble, and the vice president, there were no gaffs by joe biden during this dae bait. people can dmran about some stylistic maneuvers and the hands and the smiles and the smirks and all that kind of stuff, but there were no major verbal gaffs or anything by either of these candidates. i think it was a pretty good substantive debate. >> okay. so now i want to jump to something that's sort of unusual. i don't often hear pundits discuss this part of the debate. it was the very end, the stuff you're not usually supposed to be watching. it was when the families came up on the stage. i don't know about you, but i felt like i saw very different dynamic playing out. i saw not in the picture you're looking at now, but joe biden was hugging paul ryan's wife. the mom. i just thought, well, there's a mom who is looking at him saying, you know, you just went after my son, and then all of the families mingled. wives with ot
has way more experience in all of these areas than ryan did, but ryan obviously has studied a lot. certainly over the last few weeks getting ready for this debate. he didn't fumble, and the vice president, there were no gaffs by joe biden during this dae bait. people can dmran about some stylistic maneuvers and the hands and the smiles and the smirks and all that kind of stuff, but there were no major verbal gaffs or anything by either of these candidates. i think it was a pretty good...
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. >>> by the way, i think paul ryan will do great. >> could joe biden versus paul ryan do well? background america, the administration in the hot seat over the deadly attack in libya. >> it was a terrorist attack. let's be honest about it. >> mitt romney charged with flip-flopping again on abortion. >> i'll be a pro life president. >> frank bruni, my all-star candidate, going toe to toe. this is "piers morgan tonight." >>> good evening, 27 days to go until the election, look where we stand tonight, on the latest cnn polls, 47% for mitt romney, 47% for president obama. anything could happen in this race, shows you how high the stakes are going into the presidential debate. preparations are under way in danville, kentucky, and joe biden is getting ready for preparations. and paul ryan arrived, and mitt romney on the campaign trail in the battleground state of ohio. >> we have not had the strong leadership we needed in washington to take on our challenge, time and again, the president has told us he'd take on se of these things but has not. and then he turns around and tries to bla
. >>> by the way, i think paul ryan will do great. >> could joe biden versus paul ryan do well? background america, the administration in the hot seat over the deadly attack in libya. >> it was a terrorist attack. let's be honest about it. >> mitt romney charged with flip-flopping again on abortion. >> i'll be a pro life president. >> frank bruni, my all-star candidate, going toe to toe. this is "piers morgan tonight." >>> good evening,...
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it's become a focal point for the ryan/romney campaign. darrell issa was on "real time with bill maher" last night and he did not know about requests for more security. >> when vice president biden says, we didn't know about their need for more security in libya, he's only talking about the president and the vice president because, as it turns out, he doesn't hear what his own people say at the state department and all up and down sworn testimony. >> issa is the chairman of the house overnight committee that is investigating the libya tragedy, but "new york times" reports that biden and the president probably did not know about the security requests. they were handled at the state department. "the times" also reports that those requests were largely for tripoli and not for benghazi. >>> earlier i was talking about ohio and where it stands in the presidential race. mitt romney is there today, but the really big political event is coming up on thursday. ♪ >> that's when bruce springsteen, the boss and, bill clinton appeared on stage togeth
it's become a focal point for the ryan/romney campaign. darrell issa was on "real time with bill maher" last night and he did not know about requests for more security. >> when vice president biden says, we didn't know about their need for more security in libya, he's only talking about the president and the vice president because, as it turns out, he doesn't hear what his own people say at the state department and all up and down sworn testimony. >> issa is the chairman...
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joe biden/paul ryan go at it on thursday. the coverage begins at 7:00 eastern time. >>> the rumble in the air-conditioned auditorium lived up to the name last neat. fox news host bill o'reilly and jon stewart faced off in a debate at george washington university. some found it more entertaining than the presidential one. >> in man has offended -- this man over here has offended every single american. are you go to stand there -- are you sitting or standing? >> i read the bible. >> we are only as good as dpaish. >> i am short, but when you tell me i'm short, i don't blame the liberal weights or measures bureau or suggest my numbers are skews and i'm really 6'1" if only the lame street media would tell people. i trust i'm 5'7". >> you don't know this, but the feds pay for that licft. all right? >> if you missed it last night watch it online at therumble2012.com. >>> people are lining up to stroet for president, but the man they hope to elect is in ven venezuela. we'll go there live. the countdown is on in florida with a launch
joe biden/paul ryan go at it on thursday. the coverage begins at 7:00 eastern time. >>> the rumble in the air-conditioned auditorium lived up to the name last neat. fox news host bill o'reilly and jon stewart faced off in a debate at george washington university. some found it more entertaining than the presidential one. >> in man has offended -- this man over here has offended every single american. are you go to stand there -- are you sitting or standing? >> i read the...
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. >>> joe biden versus paul ryan is next. the first and only vice presidential debate, just four days away. tina jones previews the ryan/biden match-up and looks at moments from previous debates. >> reporter: who could forget that wink? governor sarah palin winken during her debate with joe biden. not just once. but half a dozen times. then, there's senator lloyd benson's dig at dan quayle in 1988. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> reporter: memorable moments. but hardly game-changers. while presidential debates can affect the outcome of an election, vice presidential debates, like this week's upcoming match-up between vice president joe biden and his gop challenger, paul ryan, are a different animal. >> you need to see that each candidate has hit the standard of readiness. that they will be ready to step into the oval office and take the reins of the presidency. beyond that, in terms of the actual debate itself, unless there is a star killing or catching moment, it
. >>> joe biden versus paul ryan is next. the first and only vice presidential debate, just four days away. tina jones previews the ryan/biden match-up and looks at moments from previous debates. >> reporter: who could forget that wink? governor sarah palin winken during her debate with joe biden. not just once. but half a dozen times. then, there's senator lloyd benson's dig at dan quayle in 1988. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're...
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paul ryan enjoys doing that. i think you'll see these guys in a nice traditional debate, and i'm getting my popcorn ready. it should be good. >> all right. dana millbank of the "washington post" thanks so much. don't miss the next political face-off, the duel in danville, kentucky, joe biden and paul ryan go at it thursday evening. our coverage begins at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. >>> preaching politics from the pulpit, p if it happens churche risk losing tax-exempt status. many religious leaders across the country challenge the law anyway. find out why. he delicious sugar-free vitafusion fiber well gummies have more fiber than other leading brands. they're the better way to enjoy your fiber. . >>> they're calling for the defate of president obama and so-called unbiblical candidates. organizers hoped as many as 1500 pastors across the country would take part today. dan gilgoff joins us from washington to tell us more about what's happening here. dan, who is behind this, and what causes a candidate to be defined as "
paul ryan enjoys doing that. i think you'll see these guys in a nice traditional debate, and i'm getting my popcorn ready. it should be good. >> all right. dana millbank of the "washington post" thanks so much. don't miss the next political face-off, the duel in danville, kentucky, joe biden and paul ryan go at it thursday evening. our coverage begins at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. >>> preaching politics from the pulpit, p if it happens churche risk losing tax-exempt...
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we have polls that show nominally people thought romney -- ryan won. sorry. >> the al gore imitation, the laughing and the smirking and acting like a 14-year-old while on camera. he was supposed to be the adult. he was supposed to wipe the floor with the guy 20 years younger than him. i thought it was rude, abusive, and it didn't make the points he wanted to. ryan got to make the points and it showed up when you look at the polls. >> let me go to bill for the counter and get -- >> well, i mean, the theatrical criticism of how joe biden responded to paul ryan's laughable performance in that debate, i mean, i think doesn't get to the substance, which was that -- >> would you rather he laughed less some. >> no. i think that for most americans when they heard paul ryan say things like american troops should do the job that afghan troops should do, i think people were throwing things at their television. not just laugh and throwing their hands up at what paul ryan was saying. on the substance i think you can get a pretty good sense of how republicans think
we have polls that show nominally people thought romney -- ryan won. sorry. >> the al gore imitation, the laughing and the smirking and acting like a 14-year-old while on camera. he was supposed to be the adult. he was supposed to wipe the floor with the guy 20 years younger than him. i thought it was rude, abusive, and it didn't make the points he wanted to. ryan got to make the points and it showed up when you look at the polls. >> let me go to bill for the counter and get --...
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ryan's talking, laughing, smiling. these are different instances of him laughing, smiling, shaking his head. what is this telling you that joe biden was doing? >> okay. different people are going to interpret this differently. certainly, it comes across as dismissive. joe biden has some of the most authentic nonverbals. he comes across as very real, almost too -- i mean, it's both a blessing and a curse. >> what are the nonverbals you're talking about that's significant, what he's doing with his hands. what is this all about? >> this is interesting because he's smiling but what he's doing with his hands where he's pulling them up close to his face and actually touching his face, it's something that you do when you're feeling a little threatened and are sort of protecting yourself. >> you're telling me that paul ryan raises his eyebrows a lot. what is the significance of that? show me what you mean, where -- right there, right? >> his eyebrows are raised and his brow is furrowed. his eyes are wide. all of that indicates
ryan's talking, laughing, smiling. these are different instances of him laughing, smiling, shaking his head. what is this telling you that joe biden was doing? >> okay. different people are going to interpret this differently. certainly, it comes across as dismissive. joe biden has some of the most authentic nonverbals. he comes across as very real, almost too -- i mean, it's both a blessing and a curse. >> what are the nonverbals you're talking about that's significant, what he's...